The comparison actually needs to be made between the Missing 411 sample and whats normal for national park visitors in general, as well as it needs to be made between the Missing 411 sample and a control sample of non-Missing 411 missing people, ideally controlled by location (park vs. rural vs. urban). People dont have good reasons to lie down on their faces and Paulides is correct to point out that corpses in water can offer a lot of reliable information about the deceased person. If a person disappeared from a place like a pub, then the perpetrators were either lying in wait on the location, possibly cooperating with whoever is operating the establishment, or they were again following the target person beforehand and waited for him to go to a social event. It would be an annoyingly good crime, however, as it is very difficult to prove such crime for the above-mentioned reasons. Which is of course reasonable in principle, especially with animals, except for the fact that it is unclear how you would do that remotely and without a trace with a human, especially a healthy adult. In 2019 David Produced and starred in his second documentary, Missing 411- The Hunted, a film about a series of missing hunters. Or there at least isnt enough evidence for any of these. The reason why Im mentioning it is that he had his shirt missing and various articles of his clothing were improperly fastened, almost as if he was undressed and then dressed back in a hurry. The only theory other than aliens was KGB, or some sort of organized crime hit, but then it isnt clear why the agents or criminals would fail to properly dress the guy. An isolated concurrence so unlikely that its suspicious by itself. Im not a physicist, chemist, or an engineer, so I cant begin to speculate about any special properties of water or granite, though electrical ones certainly dont seem to be off the table. Missing 411: The Hunted is based on the book by Paulides, which documents 185 cases of missing peoples from four different countries. So, I would expect more people to get lost while wearing colorful clothing rather than natural shades or camo. Or it could be a sign of a design artifact, like when many bad guys in our fictional worlds contain Mal in their name, or how many hero names can be abbreviated as JC. Some of these factors are inherently unusual, requiring at the very least a sudden psychotic break or a chain of bad decisions, while others are unusual through the rate at which they correlate with these cases, and yet others seem utterly impossible all by themselves. Hunters have disappeared from wildlands without a trace for hundreds of years. Nazis were in fact spectacularly wrong about the Arian race, especially in the sense that the Germans are it (theyre not) or that theyre exceptional (not by any objective metric). And it is what profiling is, in a way youre looking for cases that include selected elements. These are all angles that can and should be investigated, since precise targeting, luring, and covert disappearing of people arent trivial tasks. This would also explain why it happens in only some cities you cant simply improvise it anywhere without having the infrastructure. The fact that phones today double as GPS locators and that they can record both audio and video and be connected to the internet at all times makes urban disappearances of people with phones suspicious. One that I will totally use in some of my sci-fi or fantasy stories. But I myself am very interested in what could be called the science of coincidence, so lets talk about what coincidences may mean for a bit. Again without anyone seeing the body get in. How do you manipulate lividity of a corpse, like achieving none? Paulides has classified over 1,440 missing persons cases under the Missing411 label. For that reason, what you need to focus on are any exceptional, unique, or odd attributes that ideally didnt have to show up at all, or that would make someone a logical target for a predator, even if you dont fully understand what that predator is getting out of it. The. Former police detective David Paulides was initially brought on to investigate the circumstances around the many mysterious disappearances - here he presents the haunting true stories of hunters experiencing the unexplainable.Missing 411: The Hunted is based on the book by Paulides, which documents 185 cases of missing peoples from four . David Paulides presents the haunting true stories of hunters experiencing the unexplainable in the woods of North America. An animal could have sneakily killed and buried the missing person. In contrast, hallucinations should be much more common. Not to sound too alien-abductiony, but some type of medical examination or procedure would make the most sense. Missing 411: The Hunted is based on the book by Paulides, which documents 185 cases of missing peoples from four different countries. Given that brain damage is almost never involved even in the cases where the Missing 411 subjects were found dead, theres no good explanation for high incidence of amnesia. But theres more. Its also unusual that it seems that its young children who much more often tend to remember and report anything, as opposed to adults. In the documentary Missing 411 The Hunted, about Hunters who vanish he mentions how the FBI may show up to document the cases but as they don't investigate missing persons cases they are doing something in which they won't reveal. Missing 411- The Hunted Canam Missing Project 410K subscribers Subscribe 3.9K 214K views 3 years ago Premier- June 22, 2019 Pre-Order Now! In the case Elisa Lams death, around the time of her death, NIH was using a test called LAM-ELISA in the area to deal with a tuberculosis outbreak. Who knows, maybe thats why the urban disappearances now tend to be targeted at young, physically and mentally fit people. How can we prove otherwise? Missing 411: The Hunted. Yes, under these specific circumstances, things like temporal displacement start sounding more likely than dozens of searchers missing an obvious corpse dozens of times. This one focuses a lot on hunters, people that typically know what they're doing in the woods / wouldn't do something stupid resulting in their disappearance. The hard evidence found here indicates that many of these people must have died on land days after they disappeared, but days before they entered water, or that they must have died in a tumbling stream, when they were found in a pond with no flowing water, etc. Any government can do that already. This is also one of the profile points that may simply cause people not to be found, at all or in time to save the person, reversing the causality. What makes it so tough is that I dont think you can determine when it was a failure, and when there was nothing to be found. At the same time, if we ignore abject cruelty, when some major injuries were identified as the cause of death, those might have been done to cover up an invasive medical procedure. There is mounting evidence that states of mind affect probability of external events, making it fluctuate. Missing 411: The Hunted is based on the book by Paulides, which documents 185 cases of missing peoples from four different countries. Best format would be an interactive table online, where all types of data could be filtered and sorted with immediate visualization. The exotic options would all be variations on the person entering some sort of portal or spacetime warp or legitimately teleporting. With all the insults out of the way, lets look at the profile points. Beyond the basic scientific considerations, its important to understand that we may be doing research here against an intelligent adversary, which complicates things. When Paulides subtitled one of his book A Sobering Coincidence, Im pretty sure that he was talking about correlations elements of the cases repeating in multiple cases. Ask Sherlock Holmes. The concept of a holistic detective may be a fiction invented by Douglas Adams, but the interesting aspect of his science fiction ideas is that while crazy-sounding and hilarious, they are logically consistent and potentially realistic. My theory regarding coincidences is that if you have a sufficiently complete knowledge, you can use it to communicate with people or steer them using coincidences (by manipulating irrelevant details of situations around them so that only they will notice that something noteworthy is going on). For the first three-fourths or so of the documentary, we're under the impression that they seem to be easy targets for killers or maybe incredibly accident prone. I certainly wouldnt be surprised if these were more common for Missing 411 cases than in the general population or among normal park visitors, though it would be interesting to see exactly how much more or less common they are for normal disappearances in the same areas. If I sum it all up: This about covers what I would like to say about this subject at this moment in time. All of which are attributes that should be connected with strange disappearances, if you think about it. Like mentions of reports of bigfoot on one of the U.S. coasts attacking dogs (in one episode of the On the Trail of Bigfoot series), or a description of an area where there were almost exclusively bigfoot reports on one side of a road going through a forest, and almost exclusively dogman reports on the other (on The Venomous Fringe podcast). This implies that the way in which these people disappear involves their rapid incapacitation, or at least severe confusion. What I would say does seem obviously wrong are for example the cases of water-related disappearances and deaths in urban areas, where the young white male students figure in almost all of them. The mysterious part is how the bodies got to where they were found. gryff42. Thats inductive research, its good science. After all, if there is an intelligent perpetrator behind at least some of these cases, they can be smart enough not to kidnap and kill too many people. A type of place from which Missing 411 people tend to vanish and at which they tend to appear. Heck, theres even a consensus in the cryptid community, as far as I can tell, that while bigfoot-type cryptids find themselves ethically speaking on the same range as humans (including benevolence), dogmen and skinwalkers are almost always strictly malevolent, or at least much more aggressive and dangerous. Sure, it would be somewhat difficult to hide the act of construction, but again, even your standard government can pull that off. The question is, why would a sophisticated perpetrator remove (and sometimes return) clothing, and not understand how it works? This is why one should look into the work of people like Steph Young or various other paranormal investigators. If the person was seen, say, falling of a cliff, then that would be an explanation, just like it should be easier to find someone when youd seen where exactly they entered the forest, at what speed, and in what state of mind. And maybe nothing is. [1] [2] Early life and career If you have any theories or suggestions yourselves, Im all ears. Which makes you think what could have happened to those who were not returned. Disorientation happened to my son and I four years ago in Germany's Teutoburg Forest. In any case, since many of the missing in cities were students, maybe they were targeted at school. Especially if its only about taking advantage of naturally forming bad weather, as that would then maintain its normal, statistically insignificant rate of incidence. Tristan White, 4 Years, Missing November 22, 2006, Minnesota. Assuming that Bigfoot doesnt exist, this is still a completely reasonable activity. Dave also likes to cite one case in which the police officers noticed that the subject who lost his shoes had clean socks, after apparently traveling on his own for several miles through a muddy area. So far, as far as I know, Dave made the clusters map and the table of how far away small children were found. Mental illness or voluntary disappearance does not appear to be the cause. People make errors. Coincidence is how gods can circumvent rules. Or Spock. At the same time, however, getting as many people to know and think about this is key, as it directly defeats the main objectives of the hypothetical adversary (remaining hidden and keeping potential targets unaware). These could have involved a more invasive examination or procedure focused on the brain, and while they fortunately seem rare, especially to the extreme of cow mutilations, there are such cases. If the point was that you need to work with or study specific genetic markers, given that Germans are, ironically, one of the least genetically pure groups in the world. Finally, the seemingly most ridiculous element of all of these stories, the stool sample, is a clear sign of organization. At least not in any of the cases where the person was found. Especially in the one case when the phone was later found shattered into a million pieces. These are mainly the German connection, the religion connection, and the military connection, or a combination of two or all three. Which is most definitely not the case, but its just crazy, yet logical enough to be worth mentioning to showcase how not normal the available data is. Im personally not an expert on animal behavior, but as I was told by a biochemist, nothing in biology is 100%. This is another strong profile point. Mostly, they just managed to say something like oh my gosh, or my phone is about to go dead, or gave out unsettling noises. This includes a number of cases of divers not finding the body, but random people on the shore finding it afterwards. The most low-tech version that I can think of, some combination of taser and GHB, would clearly be inadvisable for use on children and should kill some people. 2019. The only conventional explanation for reliable amnesia is when it is induced by some sort of chemical. However, that leaves a number of seemingly unnecessary attributes without any apparent logic behind why they should make someone a target or more likely to get lost mysteriously. But back to how the specific Missing 411 accounts of the people who were found indicate organized predation. Or at least not in any way in which we understand this type of attack to work. It should never be tens of percent. Or, again, by someone who had no idea how to properly fasten the clothes. The main two cases involving multiple odd coincidences are the disappearance of Dennis Martin and the death of Elisa Lam. Which brings me to some practical reasons why you would undress a person that you have kidnapped. Finally, being associated with Bigfoot research also doesnt disqualify everything that you say about anything. Missing 411- North America and Beyond, 2013. With all that said, it would be interesting to take all of the people with the German origin within the Missing 411 sample and check whether their ancestors come from all over Germany, or if they all come from a specific region or regions inside of Germany (or Austria or Switzerland). Maybe some of the people who died had an allergic reaction to whatever method of incapacitation or memory wipe was used. What I can speculate on is why any type of perpetrator would have an operational range centered around large bodies of water or rock formations, or national forests and parks for that matter. Speaking of animals, theres of course the dog whistle or similar techniques that could certainly be used to make a dog run into a forest to make its master follow him, and a variety of more sophisticated technologies currently under development, mainly to be used as forms of crowd control. All 185 cases fit a narrowly defined profile that was refined after researching thousands of missing person reports; these cases are the most difficult, defy common sense, challenge conventional wisdom and remain . The question is not so much whether someone can have or be using such technology, since the recent sonic attacks at U.S. embassies across the world prove that the capability exists. The reason why amnesia always seems contrived in TV shows and movies when used more than minimally is that it is rare in real life. You can watch both productions here on Amazon. However, they may not follow that perfectly. scientists or drones, in order to hide from humanity, youd need a place where you can hide. This should definitely include basic data like demographics of the missing and the dates and times of disappearances, in addition to locations, which were already visualized as the cluster map. I could also go on and on, but I think this is more than enough for now. Then again, at this point, its not much more than entertaining fiction. Furthermore, introducing it in the first place or doing things like turning it inside out could screw with pattern recognition AI that was designed to target us looking a particular way. The reason why foul play was suspected in this case was that there were burn marks found on the body, which has happened in at least one Missing 411 urban case that Im aware of. Finally, if you think about it, its important to understand that human clothing can be confusing to a highly intelligent, highly scientifically advanced species who has studied us for ages. Perhaps an evidence of that could be uncovered for some of the cases, for example by checking any street footage for suspicious vehicles outside of the victims residence. And dont even get me started on synchronicity and how you absolutely would want to use systemic coincidences in order to manage a simulated (or similarly controlled) world. This profile point doesnt sound necessarily unusual to me, since in any scenario, it has to be much more likely that a missing persons case will remain unexplained when the person disappeared while being alone and out of sight, while any intelligent perpetrator would wait for that moment. Which is an issue that we have already encountered with self-driving cars. Malevolent gods could theoretically use it to mislead us, but I bet that malevolent gods have a less perfect awareness and more of a self-centered, narrow viewpoint on things. Which sometimes happens in the Missing 411 cases, without any good reason. Like his idea of a probability-based engine many macroscopic physical laws are only aggregates of chaotic movements and interactions going on at the subatomic level. The most common report from adults, adult women specifically, is that of being stalked by weird or strange men. The cases of inside-out clothing in particular remind me of one potential UFO abduction case of Zigmund Adamski, which happened on the 6th of June 1980 in the U.K. There are no stretches of known science required for someone to be able to create an underground or underwater base. At the risk or irritating the given god. Anything that makes you more visible from a longer distance by default makes you an easier target for any kind of predator, animal, human, or otherwise. Otherwise, literally only the Nazis would care about this. This leaves a sudden medical emergency, or an animal or human attack, that either quickly render you unconscious, or force you to be quiet. While you could come across a person randomly in the forest, it is much harder to be able to single people out, avoid being killed by our weapons (or leaving the dead to be found by us), and cover ones tracks. Paulides also keeps mentioning that he doesnt question the thoroughness of the searches or the dedication and skill of the searchers, or effectiveness of canines or helicopters with FLIR. If there already was a history of people getting lost or being found dead hundreds of years ago, maybe there always were hunting grounds of local predators, maybe there always was a settlement of local wild men, or maybe something about the natural environment itself was always potentially deadly to visitors. The whole idea of the movie The Prestige about rival illusionists is that the most impossible magic trick is teleportation. Its not at all hard to imagine that in this case, the person got suddenly kidnapped into a flying vehicle and stripped by some sort of non-human entities, was aware of it (which perhaps wasnt supposed to happen) and panicked, burned himself while trying to escape the vehicle or fight the captors, got a heart attack, and died. There are also plenty of weird, and weirdly specific, clothing-related instructions in the fairy lore, like that in order to ward them off, you should turn your clothing inside out. This doc centers on hunters. Paulides shares several perplexing mysteries and investigations. Dave have made some comments over the years that indicate that he initially didnt believe that paradoxical undressing is an actual thing that happens, but after he got predictably criticized for it, he appears to understand it better now. For example, in a random sample of a thousand normal missing persons cases, how often do people go missing with a dog, in contrast to how often that happens in a sample of a thousand Missing 411 cases? And even in the absence of that, the Czech Republic is crisscrossed with a network of marked tourist trails, with marks dotting trees and rocks along almost all trails that exist in our forests. To me, if you get past the "oh-my-gosh-it's-horrible-what's-happening" surface feelings, folks might . When all you understand couldnt have happened, it points to none of that. Missing 411: The Hunted is based on the book by Paulides, which documents 185 cases of missing peoples from four different countries. For starters, it keeps changing, on a whim, basically, so you have to constantly keep guessing how it works. Not only that, the details of her death, especially how she was found dead in a water tank on the roof of a hotel, mirrored the plot of a Japanese horror movie called Dark Water from 2002, remade in 2005 (Elisa died in 2013). However, if you are running some sort of medical experiment, the three most logical things to do are to get a DNA sample (ideally reproductive cells), to perform a neurological exam, and to get a stool sample, which includes the gut bacteria. Sometimes to children too young to be able to dress or undress themselves. Usually, the tragic stories are about mushroom poisoning. Getting lost in a forest certainly can be a traumatic event, but exhaustion, dehydration, or hypothermia could account for hallucinations, skewed perception, or irrational behavior, but again, not so much for amnesia. After all, thats how a sudden health crisis or mental break would start. How often you run into people with the same first name or surname as you is a function of how rare it is. Dave assembled the profile by reviewing details of all unexplained disappearances he could find that took place in the U.S. national parks and by noting what they had in common. Theres bound to be some sort of infrastructure for this, especially since it is a global phenomenon and since having the staff of the establishment where you want to disappear someone on your side or having infiltrated the school which your potential targets attend would make everything much easier. If the person was targeted at home and lured out, it is virtually certain that that person was followed beforehand. Missing 411- The Devil's in the Detail, 2014 Making the target unconscious or suggestible immediately and wiping their memory after the fact would be desirable tactics for any type of predator, if they can pull it off. If it keeps happening again and again, what youve got is a systemic anomaly, an anomaly on which you will keep getting more data, an anomaly that you can try to predict. There is at least one case in which the dog was proven to have been almost certainly fed (venison), which might indicate some perpetrator may have been more respectful of the life of the dog than that of the human target, as well as there are cases of dogs likely not having spent time in the area where they got lost, like the one dehydrated dog found in a swampland, or a number of cases of dogs being found in a surprisingly good condition. Similarly, as I have heard someone theorize, you may want to remove their shoes first so that they cant run away from you very easily, or maybe youd steal their clothing so that they more quickly succumb to the elements if they somehow ran away from wherever youre holding them thats presumably some kind of shelter, base, or vehicle. The ability of any perpetrator to remotely confuse, lure, or in some sense mind control targeted people would also be consistent with the victims leaving essential items behind it would just be an induced brain fart. The ideal places to build bases would be at the bottom of the ocean or under beautiful sacred mountains, given that the former is still much less explored than the surface of the Moon and Mars, and that the latter is about the last place where humans would start a large-scale, invasive digging operation. Maybe names are not random, but to an extent generated with an audience to appreciate them in mind. If these coincidences seem pedestrian or contrived to you, brace yourself. The science is almost there. Missing 411: The U.F.O. It may even be an intelligence-type operation, specifically, which means that there could be an effort to avoid statistical detection or to obscure the true motivation by introducing false leads and using all kinds of misdirection, if not outright destruction of evidence, intimidation, or assassination. Hunters have been disappearing from North American wildlands for hundreds of years, many without leaving a trace. When you have such data, a lot of it, about a state of an object, and it doesnt make any sense how it got there from its last known state, what youve got is a proper anomaly. Support me on Patreon: http://patreon.com/nartimar. The people who were disappeared while on the phone would only be different in the sense that they must have been targeted after they were already outside. On the most basic level, it makes a lot of sense for a predator of any type or motivation to pick either easy targets (like kids, the disabled, the elderly, or less well-armed hunters), or exceptional targets (for the thrill, challenge, or some kind of interrogative or research value), so these attributes should be expected. But I totally agree with Dave that the disappearing-while-on-the-phone stuff is weird. This means that in order for this profile point to mean something more interesting, the person would have to be found despite the bad weather, in a place they shouldnt have been, and either alive when they should have died of exposure, or dead with no clear cause of death when they should have still been alive. A lot of the draw of Missing 411 is the mysterious nature of not only people vanishing, but something extraordinary at play. At the very least, it would require a vast, perfect conspiracy, and thats never a good go-to explanation. Like the case of Zigmund Adamski criminal activity was not ruled out, which rules it out as a Missing 411 case, but it was not ruled out precisely because there was evidence of foul play. And sure, tests have to be named something and there is a limited number of letters in the alphabet. Taken all together, as I will try to explain shortly, no single normal or paranormal hypothesis explains all of the cases, meaning that either multiple are at play, or a one so crazy that no one, including Dave, has even been able to conceive of it yet. In either of these scenarios, the result will look the same. Conversely, a person out to dispose of a corpse in water clearly would take that care. As for any data points or theories that may shed some light on why the clothing tends to be missing, the only explanations provided by the survivors of something like a Missing 411 incident are either that they removed it themselves (without understanding why and later regretting it), or the story of one little girl that a dog/wolf man ate some articles of her clothing. In this light, it would only be strange if the person who felt unwell then traveled huge distance, which would be incongruous, or if the person was later found alive and healthy, but with no memory of what happened. shereen taylor frankie boyle, appliance repair slogans, can a police officer break your car window,
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